VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
The archived #editingchat is now available at: http://twitter.com/#!/saved-search/%23editingchat #amwriting #writing @ollinmorales
1 minute ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Kathleen Kelly
KathyKellyRN Kathleen Kelly
I’d like that! RT @VictoriaMixon …but if enough people vote to keep it going we can. #editingchat again
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
It’s not set up as a regular thing right now, @prettyandi, but if enough people vote to keep it going we can. #editingchat again
3 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
Thanks @ollinmorales & @VictoriaMixon I hope to catch #editingchat again – was very informative.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
If you guys want to do a regular #editingchat, ping me on Twitter or my blog or email. We cd set something up.
9 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes, please check out @ollinmorales’ blog: http://www.thecourage2create.com #editingchat
10 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
If you have any suggestions about what kind of chats you would like me to have, please direct message me. Thanks! #editingchat
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Thank you for all your great questions and thank you again @VictoriaMixon ! You all have a wonderful weekend. #editingchat
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
@ollinmorales #editingchat
12 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
shanearthur
shanearthur shanearthur
Great chat session. Have not done one of these in, hell, over a year. #editingchat thanks @victoriamixon and @ollinmorales
12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Also, you can do your research or you can just hire @VictoriaMixon herself. Its up to you. #editingchat
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Don’t rely on a Copy Editor for your Line Editing. A good Line Editor can prove their skill w/examples on their blog. #editingchat
13 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Kathleen Kelly
KathyKellyRN Kathleen Kelly
Thanks, Victoria! #editingchat
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
I am going to write a review for @VictoriaMixon’s book on monday for the {C2C} so check that out. #editingchat
14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Some of our followers want more, and for that I suggest you check out @VictoriaMixon ’s book the Art and Craft of Fiction #editingchat
14 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And Ollin’s right, we are going to have to wind it down. It’s been an hour already! #editingchat
15 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@VictoriaMixon #editingchat I wrote first MS in 3 months. Been revising and editing for almost a year. Sometim… (cont) http://deck.ly/~irEzz
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I get to know ALL my clients. You bet. If I didn’t like them, I wouldn’t be able to work w/them. #editingchat
15 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
First of all, thank you @VictoriaMixon for taking the time today to answer our followers questions #editingchat
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
They’re critiquing on a higher level, but they’re still guessing, not bringing pro editing experience to your ms. #editingchat
16 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@VictoriaMixon #editingchat oh no – I’m totally not done. And honestly I’m a bit of a perfectionist – I’d lik… (cont) http://deck.ly/~LfYXl
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Remember you can visit @VictoriaMixon at www.victoriamixon.com to get the answers to questions you didn’t get answered here #editingchat
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I know lots of excellent writers who only know the basics of peer critiquing. #editingchat
16 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes, you can read their fiction, although the caveat is an excellent writer is not necessarily an excellent editor. #editingchat
17 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Kathleen Kelly
KathyKellyRN Kathleen Kelly
@Victoria Mixon But do they want to get to know YOU if you are a newbie writer? #editingchat
17 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
No. It’s not necessary to meet face-to-face. I’ve never met any of my clients in person. Not a one. #editingchat
17 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Sorry, we’re going to have to wind this down #editingchat
17 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Lydia Ondrusek
littlefluffycat Lydia Ondrusek
@
@VictoriaMixon and if they write their own fiction, go read them. #editingchat
18 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
If you’re already done (most of my clients are) start w/Dev Editing & work your way forward. You’ll be amazed! You’re not done. #editingchat
17 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Chat w/them a bit on Twitter or their blog comments. You can ask me questions on my advice column. Get to know them. #editingchat
19 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
does writer need to be able to be in face to face contact with editor? or could it be internet only? #editingchat
19 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Do not whatever else you do ever, *ever hire someone you do not already feel comfortable with. #editingchat
19 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I talked about editors’ proving their chops here: http://tinyurl.com/4xb5wnn #editingchat
19 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
and what does the writer who already has works finished without help of editor do? #editingchat I have a feeli… (cont) http://deck.ly/~f1MSf
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Can you provide a link to your mon post about research? @VictoriaMixon #editingchat
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Dawn McIlvain Stahl
PurplePenning Dawn McIlvain Stahl
.@VictoriaMixon And, I would add, many, many “copy editors” are actually doing line editing. #editingchat
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
They shd be putting their knowledge out there for you to find. I put tons of stuff out: blog, advice column, book, Twitter chat #editingchat
21 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Missy Durant
madurant Missy Durant
I’m pretty dog gone pleased with support I get from @victoriamixon you will know when you find the right one. trust yourself. #editingchat
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I’m RT’ing Missy b/c I <3 her @madurant editors pivotal for beginning writers. @victoriamixon = rock star #editingchat
22 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
@madurant #editingchat
23 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
What tells us that they have proved their chops? @VictoriaMixon #editingchat
23 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
10,000 hours of *improvement* = mastery. 10,000 hours of spinning yr wheels = muddy ruts. #editingchat
23 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@ollinmorales Yes, I’d love 2 know where 2 find good editor, as well as, should I expect editor to do all 3 (line, dev,copy) #editingchat
23 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Missy Durant
madurant Missy Durant
Hey! shouldn’t you be editing my stuff! RT @VictoriaMixon: Hi Missy! @madurant I’ve been working on yours, btw! #editingchat
24 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I actually blogged about this Mon. Research. Look them up. Find out whether or not they can prove their chops b/f you hire thm. #editingchat
24 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And when it turns out you’re not Jean Rhys (editor: Athill) pubs dismiss you out of hand instead of exploring your potential. #editingchat
25 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Kathleen Kelly
KathyKellyRN Kathleen Kelly
Very good to know; thanks. #editingchat
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Missy Durant
madurant Missy Durant
malcom gladwell. Outliers…10,000 hrs=mastery. want to spend your time writing 10,000 or all the other stuff:) #editingchat
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
How do we know whether we got a great editor on our hands, or just a copy editor looking for a buck? #editingchat
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Pubs wd like you to believe editors are unnecessary b/c they don’t want to pay for them. They just hope you’re a writing genius #editingchat
25 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Hi Missy! @madurant I’ve been working on yours, btw! #editingchat
26 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes, a Developmental Editor is important for memoir. It’s a specialized form of storytelling that needs professional guidance. #editingchat
26 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
RT @VictoriaMixon: But don’t, I beg of you, hire someone who only knows grammar & punctuation to give you Developmental Advice. #editingchat
27 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
In my experience, Yes, a professional editor is necessary. Always has been. Although nowadays pub’s try to skimp by w/out them. #editingchat
27 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Missy Durant
madurant Missy Durant
my 2 cents. editors are pivotal for beginning writers. get one you love. from the start. @victoriamixon = rock star. #editingchat
27 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Kathleen Kelly
KathyKellyRN Kathleen Kelly
Hi Victoria. Do you believe that a Devel editor as helpful for memoir? #editingchat
27 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
shanearthur
shanearthur shanearthur
#editingchat Step 1: Read Victoria’s Book.
28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Many, many folks are calling themselves ‘editors’ these days who are really just peer critiquers who’d like to make $ at it. #editingchat
28 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
Photo: LOL~Importance of punctuation #editingchat secretsofawriter: http://tumblr.com/xo021jbytd
28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
I wanted to get to @4andyman comment about whether or not a professional editor is necessary. Is it necessary? #editingchat
28 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
You really need to know your editor does excellent Developmental Editing. A Copy Editor or newbie might pretend but not know. #editingchat
28 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes. I recommend earlier not later. When I do Dev Editing on a ‘finished’ ms the writer winds up tossing & rewriting a lot #editingchat
30 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
starshinedown
starshinedown starshinedown
I’m lurking on the #editingchat right now, and wow is it informative.
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
KNOW the difference between a copy editor, line editor, and developmental editor, and KNOW what it is you need before you hire #editingchat
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@VictoriaMixon I’ve just started on ideas for my next novel- It’s so good to know that editors are helpful in the beginning- #editingchat
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
That’s a sheer waste of money & results in very disgruntled writers who distrust editors in general. #editingchat
31 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
But do not, I beg of you, hire someone who only knows grammar & punctuation to give you Developmental Advice. #editingchat
31 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
So what you are saying is that an professional editor can come in at any time the writer wants #editingchat
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
A really excellent Developmental Editor (not a Copy Editor!) can get you pointed the right direction b/f you write a word. #editingchat
32 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@VictoriaMixon gosh I wish I knew that before I started writing! I’m hoping to query by the beginning of June (personal goal) #editingchat
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Interesting, I think most people think editors should come at the back end of writing… #editingchat
33 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
YES. A professional can be a great help at early stages. #editingchat
32 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Lydia Ondrusek
littlefluffycat Lydia Ondrusek
Go and look at the discussion on #editingchat.
33 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
. . .b/f they come back with a re-written ms to be Line Edited. #editingchat
33 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
When I do the full monte, I do Developmental Editing first. Then sometimes I don’t hear from the writer for months. . . #editingchat
33 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
So are you saying that a professional editor can drop in even at the early stages of her novel? #editingchat
34 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Once you know your synopsis–your story–is as solid as it can possibly be, you can begin writing the ms to be Line Edited. #editingchat
34 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
It depends on what she wants. I’d create a synopsis & send it to a really good Developmental Editor before I started writing. #editingchat
35 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Should she get one after she has done copyediting herself first? Even if you did some more copyediting for her? #editingchat
36 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
That is the heart of traditional editing, which has been lost in modern publishing. #editingchat
36 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
I guess I’m trying to answer the question that @prettyandi was asking, about when should she get a professional? #editingchat
36 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
My most important job is helping the writer discover the story they really mean to tell & telling it as wonderfully as possible #editingchat
37 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I throw Copy Editing in freebie w/Line Editing. #editingchat
38 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Well, I often do Copy Editing w/Line Editing b/c so few aspiring writers understand that’s the peanuts of what I do. #editingchat
38 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
RT @ollinmorales: Copyediting=grammar,spelling, punc. LineEditing=scenes, language,show vs. tell DevelopEditing=story structure #editingchat
38 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Line Editing inspired Gottlieb & Bob Caro to get in shouting matches over an adjective or semicolon. Passion for language. #editingchat
39 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
It seems like you better get your Copy editing done before you go to a professional for developmental or line editing? #editingchat
39 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
RT @VictoriaMixon: Line Editing, is professional attention scenes, the distinctions b/twn showing & telling, wonderfl language. #editingchat
39 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Nowadays publishers will spring for a Copy Editor if absolutely necessary, but they’ve forgotten or don’t know @ Line Editing. #editingchat
40 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Copy editing = grammar, spelling, punct. Line Editing = scenes, language, showing vs. telling Develop Editing = story structure #editingchat
40 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
In the old days, writers didn’t have to know Copy Editing, but they’d darn well better have a passion for Line Editing. #editingchat
40 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Line Editing, on the other hand, is professional attention scenes, the distinctions b/twn showing & telling, wonderfl language. #editingchat
41 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
and Line Editing = ? @VictoriaMixon #editingchat
41 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
@4ndyman They always did before. They’re just getting cheap, frankly. #editingchat
42 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
Ok, by definition then, I suppose I’m ok at copyediting. #editingchat working on the others still.
43 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I’m guessing Stephen King needs very little help with his Developmental Editing. #editingchat
43 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
RT @VictoriaMixon: Developmental Editing is organizing your story according to classic structure, hook, development, climax. #editingchat
43 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Really good professional writers know how to do their own Developmental Editing. #editingchat
43 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
. . .with the most powerful possible character development to create gripping cause-&-effect. #editingchat
43 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andy Hollandbeck
4ndyman Andy Hollandbeck
@
@VictoriaMixon #editingchat I think it’s hard for publishers to justify hiring a dev. editor, copy editor, AND line editor, AND proofreader.
44 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
RT @VictoriaMixon: Developmental Editing: basic structure, necessary tension, developing characters. #editingchat
44 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Developmental Editing is organizing your story according to classic structure, hook, development, climax. . .#editingchat
44 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I should say, the greats did Line Editing for their publishers & authors, but the publishers hired them to do it. #editingchat
45 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
You can & should teach you to Copy Edit your own work. #editingchat
45 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Can you clarify a bit more, because some might mistake developmental with line editing. The difference? #editingchat
45 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes, exactly, @ollinmorales #editingchat
45 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
It’s what the greats like Gottlieb, Cowley, Covici, and Athill did for their publishers. #editingchat
46 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
It is quickly becoming a lost art, which is stupid beyond stupid b/c it is the essence of writing. #editingchat
46 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Ah, so Copy Editing = correction of grammar, punctuation, and spelling. #editingchat
46 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I don’t actually know anyone doing real Line Editing these days, not even publishers’ editors. #editingchat
46 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And LINE EDITING is my beloved, precious art of polishing language. #editingchat
47 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Not all indie editors are good. Be aware, people. Some say they ‘edit’ when all they do is Copy Edit. #editingchat
47 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
What is line editing, for those who don’t know? #editingchat
48 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And about thirty gazillion newbies are offering Copy Editing: correcting for grammar & punctuation (even spelling) #editingchat
48 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Developmental Editing = overall editing of your story #editingchat
48 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
No, that’s true. Even seasoned editors can’t Line Edit themselves. Bless my little pointed head, but I have tried. #editingchat
49 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Lots of experienced indie editors are doing Developmental Editing: basic structure, necessary tension, developing characters. #editingchat
50 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
can you briefly take us through these three? #editingchat
50 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andy Hollandbeck
4ndyman Andy Hollandbeck
#editingchat Even seasoned editors shouldn’t rely solely on self-editing. Writers see what they intended, not what they wrote.
50 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
You explain them in detail in ur book, but they are line editing, copy editing, and developmental editing #editingchat
50 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Yes, that’s Developmental, Line, and Copy Editing. Although proofreading has a role as well. #editingchat
50 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
First, people might not know that there’s 3 kinds of editing #editingchat @VictoriaMixon
51 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Teaching is always a great way to learn what you know. #editingchat
52 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Oh, yes, I have worked a lot with teens & kids. I have a chapter in the 2nd Art & Craft about that. #editingchat
52 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon Okay, but back to the difference between self-editing vs. professional. Let’s start with defining the terms #editingchat
52 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Teaching English does help a lot, although it’s learning the stuff you teach that helps the writer in you. #editingchat
53 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon teaching english to a 4th grader really helps you understand the reason why a sentence needs a subject and verb #editingchat
53 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Nowadays even many published writers aren’t editing, so they never learn either! #editingchat
53 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Very few unpublished writers know the difference between self-editing & professional. Where would they learn? #editingchat
54 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon Teaching english will help you know the language inside out. And teach it to all ages. I can’t tell you how #editingchat
54 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
It depends upon the writer’s goals. A professional can help a LOT w/Developmental advice before you even start writing. #editingchat
55 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon personally, with self-editing I highly recommend teaching english for at least two years. #editingchat
55 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And proofreading just takes more eyeballs. My mother taught me to do it by reading backward. #editingchat
55 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
But Line Editing takes a professional touch. #editingchat
56 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Learning really good storytelling, structure, & char development can cost $, too, in books & classes & workshops. #editingchat
56 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I do a lot of that work for clients, & it costs them $ to save themselves learning that stuff. Which is fine–it’s your choice !#editingchat
56 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon how does a writer know when to hand the work over to a professional? #editingchat
57 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
shanearthur
shanearthur shanearthur
#editingchat I would argue unless writers have worked with editor prior, they would not know to self-edit or go prof. route.
57 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Teach yourself basic structure & the fundamentals of character development. Also teach yourself proper grammar & punctuation. #editingchat
57 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
That’s right now for us EST folks: Holding #editingchat at noon PST on Twitter http://victoriamixon.com/?p=8766
58 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Thanks, Ollin! #editingchat
58 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
Holding #editingchat at noon PST on Twitter http://victoriamixon.com/?p=8766
58 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
And Line Editing is the polish after or with Copy Editing. It’s traditional editing, editing text to professional polish. #editingchat
59 minutes ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon lot of questions coming in so let me moderate: let’s start w/ self-editing versus when you need a professional. #editingchat
59 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@VictoriaMixon I’ve found myself doing both. Sometimes I get stuck editing along the way and have to remind myself-FINISH STORY #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Proofreading is the very last stage & takes a 2nd or even 3rd set of eyes. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Copy Editing is for final stages, & you can learn to do that yourself. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Prof editing can start anytime dependng upon the type of editor. Developmental Editing is most helpful in early stages. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon Good, let’s narrow down what an editor means for fiction writers? #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Self-editing is up to the writer. Some polish as they go, others write a whole draft first then go back. Some plan b/f writing. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
@ollinmorales hi! #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
I meant to say thanks for joining us @prettyandi @writersflow @megcarpen @shanearthur #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Now it means ‘proofread/copyedit’ ‘give structural advice’ ‘manage mag & news submissns’ ‘aquire for pubs’ & sometimes ‘polish’ #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Hi @prettyandi @writersflow @megcarpen @shanearthur for joining us! #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Walter Dinjos
SillyStoryIdeas Walter Dinjos
Holding #editingchat at noon PST on Twitter: You guys! I totally forgot to post this this morning. I’m sorry. Ol… http://bit.ly/ei9Dah
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
#editingchat that’s what I figured. Sometimes I wonder if any editor I get may look at my writing and say-uhh, you sure you’re finished? eek
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Editing used to mean: ‘editing written text to professional quality.’ #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Megan Carpenter
megcarpen Megan Carpenter
Do you recommend editing as you go along, waiting till after the book/chapter is done, or some combo of each? #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Oh, I searched for #editingchat & saved the search & then jumped to it on my Searches menu. That’s on new Twitter.
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Editing is actually used to cover an almost absurdly-vast spectrum of jobs these days. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Well, that’s what *I* do, anyway. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
How can people follow the convo @VictoriaMixon just by following #editingchat?
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
I’m quite sure I’ll be in need of an editor sometime in the near future #editingchat – not sure I know what to ask right now tho … ha.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
An editor is a God of Words who knows how to convert the heartfelt passion of your best draft into a polished professional work #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Ask questions. We’re talking about editing & revision for aspiring writers. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon My next question just to clear up any misconceptions people might have: what is an editor exactly? #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Hi Meg! Hi Andi! #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Writer’s Flow
writersflow Writer’s Flow
@
Checking out #editingchat with @VictoriaMixon Answering editing questions #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
Hello #editingchat I’m a lurker. Just wanted to say I am here
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Plus all that late-night & weekend fiction writing, with which I know you are all tres familiar. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Megan Carpenter
megcarpen Megan Carpenter
Interesting, #editingchat Haven’t seen this before, I think I’ll hover.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Independent editing I’ve been doing 2 1/2 yrs now. Writing & editing professionally I’ve been doing for 30. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
I’m just following #editingchat, btw @ollinmorales, so I’m bouncing stuff back to that rather than you personally. I hope that’s ok.
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
@VictoriaMixon is an editor of fiction focusing on independent work. Can u tell us a bit about how long you’ve been doing this? #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Hi Ollin & everyone! #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
We got a really great response last time talking about critiquing groups @VictoriaMixon so we wanted to do this again. #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Please show me great patience. @ollinmorales #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Ollin Morales
ollinmorales Ollin Morales
Okay folks, welcome to my first promptu impromptu chat with @VictoriaMixon #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Also, I don’t know how to operate Tweetdeck, so I’m on regular Twitter, which is a little slower. @ollinmorales #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Beethoven’s Fifth, people. @ollinmorales & me #editingchat 3 minutes #amwriting #writing
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
shanearthur
shanearthur shanearthur
I’ve got my red pen ready @VictoriaMixon #editingchat
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Andi Stenger
prettyandi Andi Stenger
@
I couldn’t be more excited about this! putting 2yr old down for nap NOW! RT @VictoriaMixon … talking #editingchat at noon PST #amwriting
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Twenty minutes, you guys. I’m off to make popcorn for it. @ollinmorales & I talking #editingchat at noon PST #amwriting #writing
1 hour ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
You guys! In one hour: @ollinmorales & I are talking #editingchat. Today at noon PST. You’ll be there, yes? #amwriting #writing
2 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
#editingchat today at noon! me & @ollinmorales Join us! We’re serving cookies. #amwriting #writing
3 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Friday (tomorrow) noon-1 PST @ollinmorales is going to ask me in an #editingchat @ editors & editing. Please join us! #amwriting #writing
16 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
RT @ollinmorales Twitter chat w/ @VictoriaMixon THIS Friday April 8 12-1 PST Please join us for #editingchat #amwriting #amediting #writing
22 hours ago Favorite Reply Delete
»
Victoria Mixon
VictoriaMixon Victoria Mixon
Promptu impromptu #editingchat this Friday 12-1 PST w/@ollinmorales You all should be there. Keep us honest! #amwriting #amediting #writing
6 Apr Favorite Reply Delete